Blood clots risk and mutations. Do a genetic test or not? 4. [Parts 1 and 2]

Blood clots risk and mutations. Do a genetic test or not? 4. [Parts 1 and 2]
Blood clots risk and mutations. Do a genetic test or not? 4. [Parts 1 and 2]

Blood clots risk and mutations. Do a genetic test or not? 4. [Parts 1 and 2]

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Blood clots in leg veins and thrombosis in pelvic veins can lead to pulmonary embolism. And blood clots often happen in people with a genetic mutation in several genes, such as protein C, protein S, antithrombin. Blood group type can also affect predisposition to forming blood clots. How do people usually find out that they have a genetic mutation predisposing them to blood clot formation or thrombosis?

It is a long story with which I was involved because I was a member of the WHO panel many ago. The scale of functionally important mutations of coagulation factors gave us the state of hypercoagulability. We explained them to some extent. Some, albeit not all, causes of venous thrombosis but not arterial thrombosis were discovered. Now, we know that mutations happen in high frequency, so it's relevant in the general population. We mainly deal with a gain of function mutations. One blood clotting risk mutation is called Factor Five Leiden. As I mentioned, Factor Five Leiden mutation gives a very active Factor VIII, which, of course, gives an excess of formation of coagulation. It leads to higher coagulability. It is a risk factor for thrombosis. I want to emphasize that the Factor Five Leiden mutation risk factor doesn't mean you will inevitably get the disease thrombosis. It means that you are at more risk than a person without a mutation to develop thrombosis. But we must distinguish the relative risk from the absolute risk, which is still very low, even in these patients. Then the other established gain of function mutation can exist in another coagulation factor, prothrombin. And of course, even there, you have an excess formation of thrombin, the final enzyme in blood coagulation. This has been just as an important discovery. It didn't get the Nobel Prize, but certainly, in our field, prothrombin mutation has been a fundamental discovery. The problem is what to do with these mutations. Because if you take together these two mutation, they are very frequent in the general population. In the general population of Western countries, together, Factor Five Leiden and prothrombin mutations reach 6%. So the probability of being positive for Factor 5 Leiden or prothrombin mutation is potentially relatively high. But again, you must consider that these are the risk factors for thrombosis. It is not a certain indication that they will get thrombosis.

What are the current recommendations about Factor 5 Leiden and prothrombin mutations? When patients should be tested for these mutations? Certainly no need to test in a generally healthy population. No need for testing even in persons who are undergoing procedures with an additional risk of thrombosis. Such patients are undergoing surgery, particularly hip replacement surgery. Or women who take oral contraceptives. Because even though, of course, the two risk factors tend to be additive, if not multiplicative, is still too rare. It is too rare a mutation to justify performing this screening. So, for example, which is the most frequent of our referrals, sometimes the gynecologist asked her to do these mutation analysis in young women. They take combined estrogen-progesterone combination contraceptives. Usually, we don't recommend testing for thrombosis-related mutations. This is in the guidelines to recommend them for the reasons I mentioned. So they are of very little use because they are many women who are taking contraceptive pills but who do not develop thrombosis. And you have to consider that if they don't take the contraceptive pill, they may get pregnant, or they will get pregnant. And pregnancy, of course, carries a risk of thrombosis that is equal to that of these [contraceptive medications and thrombosis-predisposing mutations]. So that's why, in general, there is no recommended screening for [Factor Five Leiden, Protein C, and Protein S mutations], not even in the general population. Not even in situations like the intake of oral contraceptives or before surgery accompanied by a higher risk of thrombosis. So screenings are not recommended.

They are usually done, as I said, with very little evidence, to understand why a person developed thrombosis. Screening for thrombosis-predisposing mutations happens, particularly in young people. Because when a person develops thrombosis, as you know, venous thrombosis and arterial thrombosis, it is a condition associated with age. Just to give you an idea, a woman in the reproductive age has 1 in 10,000 odds of developing venous thromboembolism during the time of her reproductive age. So let us say till the age of 40 or 45. The situation changes when women get older because, for instance, in menopause, the risk is 1 in 1,000. And it gets much higher when they are over 60 or 70 years of age because the thrombosis risk is 1 in 100.

The calculation is that it is not worthy of a general screening for thrombosis-predisposing mutations in the general population. But you will ask why. It is because it has been shown. Okay, for example, I have developed thrombosis. I want to know why I developed thrombosis. So besides all the other risk factors, I doa test for [Factor Five Leiden, Protein C, or Protein S] mutations. But what do I do with that information? I learn one of the possible risk factors for my thrombosis. But does it affect my future treatment? Or my future behavior? And the answer is no because the therapy does not change in the sense that if you will not change the treatment of the patient who developed thrombosis. Patients will be treated for the same period, depending on other conditions, as if they had not their thrombosis-predisposing mutations. Information about thrombosis-predisposing mutations also does not impinge upon the duration of the anticoagulant therapy. In other words, you don't treat them for longer if they have this mutation that increases thrombosis risk. So altogether, you see, there is a general recommendation not to carry out these studies [for thrombosis-predisposing mutations] because they don't help prevent thrombosis. It cannot help to tailor the treatment of those who develop thrombosis. And so, they are only helpful to help understand why patients develop thrombosis. But usually, mutations are considered one of the several risk factors for thrombosis. Sometimes you don't find a cause of thrombosis, even if the patient was negative for this mutation. So that's why thrombosis-predisposing mutations raised a lot of interest. They certainly contributed significantly to our knowledge. We understood how the gain of function of coagulation factors compared with the loss of function in factors important in coagulation disorders. That's why this topic was dealt with by people like us, who dealt with the fact of coagulation that is bleeding, but also with excessive coagulation, thrombosis. But thrombosis-predisposing mutations are really of very little use. They are very interesting mutations. [Factor Five Leiden, Protein C, or Protein S] mutations are probably rather benign. Thrombosis-predisposing mutations are encountered so frequently in the general population.

Probably people with such mutations had an advantage at an early age in our humanity. Then the primitive man was going around fighting with animals without getting his wounds bleeding. So they probably helped to stop the bleeding more easily. So that's why these mutations continue to persist because it was an advantageous mutation. At that time, it was probably an advantageous mutation for primitive women of the Neolithic period early at parturition [giving birth]. It was so because, of course, many women died at parturition [giving birth] because of bleeding. And so again, that's why the thrombosis-predisposing mutations were transmitted because only recently, thrombosis has become more frequent. But again, these mutations haven't changed, in my opinion, the natural history of venous thromboembolism nor its treatment. So that is my main message. Very interesting mutations. We publish a lot of papers on those mutations, as you can see [from my bibliography]. But what I say is the general consensus.

Then [Factor Five Leiden, Protein C, or Protein S] mutation test is being carried out very frequently, but mainly because people - and this is also my experience - particularly young people who develop an event like thrombosis that is not typical for their age. Physicians want to know why these young patients developed thrombosis. And so their main question is this question. Why did I get thrombosis? It is asked more often than this question. What is going to happen in the future? And so that's why sometimes these thrombosis-predisposing mutation tests are done. But on my opinion, they are quite useless.

So there isn't much that a person who is asymptomatic can do about these mutations. A person may have discovered, for example, through genetic screening, which is becoming more common, of course, because people just want to learn whether they might have some mutations that affect their quality of life. So if that person does the genetic screening. The person discovers that they have a protein, [Factor Five Leiden, Protein C, or Protein S] mutations. But there isn't much they can do with this information.

Well, I don't think it is a good idea to do genetic screening without reason, but only to know. First of all, because I'm not sure you will understand what is there or our destiny is. And think about what I told you. These mutations are a cofactor for developing thrombosis; they are not a reason for not being pregnant. They are not a reason for not taking oral contraceptives.

We did a study on centenarians here in Milan. Centenarians, by definition, are the people who are very healthy. They went through pregnancy, the women had trauma sometimes. These are the situations that are associated with a risk of thrombosis. So if a thrombosis-predisposing mutation had some degree of lethality, you would expect to find in them a lower prevalence [of Factor Five Leiden, Protein C, or Protein S] mutations. We found a 6% mutation rate for thrombosis-predisposing mutations in a large population of centenarians. It was as frequent a mutation rate as in the general population. So this means, again if the people with this mutation could reach an age of 100 years, they are not that detrimental. So I would simply not do the screening for thrombosis-predisposing mutations I mentioned. First of all, because in general, I don't think it would help me a great deal to understand what will be a life-long course of my life, in terms of illnesses.

And particularly for this mutation [Factor Five Leiden, Protein C, or Protein S mutation], I will add something. Let us say that they did the mutation screening test because they had thrombosis. So at least it is not very cogent, but at least it is a soft reason to do thrombosis-predisposing mutation screening. And then, of course, patients start to ask you, what about my children? Because, you know, the transmission of mutations. So they must have got the mutation either from the mother or the father. And then there is a problem with the children. And we happened to discover this because, of course, you tend to say this. Okay, either your father or your mother did transmit the mutation to you. I usually use this argument because sometimes, the father and the mother are completely asymptomatic. And so I know that this will reassure the patients, because if the father or the mother could have been older than the proband [next generaiton]. There could be a thrombosis event. But a person happened to discover that neither the mother nor the father has a thrombosis-predisposing mutation. Why is it not a fresh mutation?

Probably because the father was not the right one [actual biological father]. So that tells you the risks of doing genetic testing. As I said, it applies to the children. Think about that. First of all, okay, I have a five-year-old boy. He doesn't need a blood sample. Why should I do a mutation analysis? Particularly it is worth considering for a boy, and even a girl, you give a tag of a genetic disease. It is always an unpleasant target, even if you explain that it will not cause any problem, you see. So I think [genetic testing] is really dangerous because to give somebody a tag of a genetic trait, which is not a disease, but a genetic trait, it is very bad. So I wouldn't do what you said. And I wouldn't do this thrombosis-predisposing mutation test.

I can tell you that even very recently I was approached by a company from Switzerland. They wanted to develop a genetic testing system to offer to women deciding to take oral contraceptives. But it was an algorithm that included many other things. I was not very favorable to that idea. But in any way, they included the gain of function mutation testing, but only those mutations were included in testing. So in a sense, in the end, they gave a risk [score] for thrombosis. And this again, I wouldn't have done that. I would not recommend that. But at least, risk assessment was not only based on the [Factor Five Leiden, Protein C, or Protein S] thrombosis-predisposing mutations. There are around this country and elsewhere, there are several kits that have genetic tests for thrombosis risk. By the way, genetic testing kits include also testing for thrombosis-related mutations that have not been shown convincingly to be associated with the risk of venous thrombosis and arterial thrombosis. So my Private Practice has been made larger by people coming with this panel of tests. Obviously, they had heterozygosity and homozygosity for mutations that have never been shown [to be associated with thrombosis]. [Factor Five Leiden, Protein C, or Protein S] mutations at least are solid risk factors. But they are risk factors, not causes of thrombosis.

If we could think of a theoretical case. Suppose it's a man in his 40s, who travels, who has to travel because of the job on very long flights around the world, eight hours, 12 hours. And he goes and does the genetic test and discovers he has a Factor Five Leiden mutation. He also discovers that he has a single nucleotide polymorphism that people with Erythrocytemia Vera have. So obviously, it does not mean that he has an Erythrocytemia Vera. But there is a mutation that people who do have Erythrocytemia Vera, they have that mutation.

Moreover, he looks at his ten years of blood tests. And now he noticed that his red blood cells are always above the upper limit of normal, and his hematocrit is above 50%. So it is always slightly above the normal range, consistently. So now he could ask the question. Should I do low molecular weight heparin when I travel on my 12 hours or 18-hour flight to Australia or the Middle East? Should I just ignore the test results? I now have Factor Five Leiden mutation; I have a high hematocrit, I have higher red blood cells. Is there anything to do?

Does he have a group A or B blood type?

Well, okay, this is very interesting. So the blood group type - how does that obviously affect the thrombosis risks? So, what would you say to such a person?

First of all, I would do no tests. But, suppose you do none of these tests. I would know that I am at risk of thrombosis as much as I'm a risk because I'm older, as much as other people are at risk of thrombosis. After all, they have some other condition that facilitates the thrombosis risk. In other words, this is what I would do. I would not take any heparin. I would not take any aspirin. I would simply try not to drink too much on the plane. I will try to get a lot of [non-alcoholic] drinks, a lot of water, no sugar, no alcohol drinks. And I would monitor and be ready to go very often to the lavatory, which is unpleasant when you sleep. But this is something they should do. And I will do nothing. There is nobody recommending, even with a lot of risks, to do any preventive low molecular weight heparin [injections] before a long-haul flight. So that is the general recommendation. This stems from people like Dr. Frits Rosendaal in the Netherlands, who tackled this issue in a clinical study. This, of course, doesn't deny the situations reported in the media. There was the case of a young nurse who arrived from Australia. She was on oral contraceptives. She was coming from Australia, from abroad, on a 24-hour flight arriving at Heathrow. She fell with a pulmonary embolism and died. But this is not a reason to do the prevention therapy with what may be dangerous. 'Drug' is a Greek word that means something positive. But it also, as we will come to discuss in polypharmacy, 'drug' means 'venom.' So I would simply do nothing of what you mentioned. I would realize, if you have all these risk factors for thrombosis, you have to try to have a decent life, do exercise to avoid stasis. You can avoid immobility during the long-haul flight and walk in the plane's cabin. That's what I would do if I had a risk factor for thrombosis and being old. I would never take any medications for this. I don't think I have any thrombosis-predisposing mutation because, at the time of the early study, I served as a volunteer to develop the method by my laboratory. But even if I weren't, I would advise nothing. Right. So that is my point of view. I think this is consistent with the recommendation of the literature. They review articles that you cited. But also you would find it difficult to find recommendations different from mine. If you ask other experts, experts, of course, may have different opinions on many aspects. But I don't think on this they would differ. I don't want to be dogmatic and blatant. But I don't think everybody will tell things much different from what I am telling you.

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