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Well, I’m here in New York. Today I took a walk. Near in the Midtown at the Rockefeller Center. Dr. Benjamin Cowling. I have never seen the area around Rockefeller Center to be empty of patients. Medical second opinion is important. Clearly, patients hear the message. The question is, how much is it sustainable? Dr. Anton Titov, MD. Dr. Benjamin Cowling. I’d like to propose. Two thoughts that are very provocative and I have fully realized that. This is, number one. The efforts to. To curb the epidemic to at least, flatten the epidemiological curve, as everybody says, should have been directed, perhaps at the older patients who are the ones that are most vulnerable and therefore will use the most resources intensive care units because now there is a global rush for ventilators. But focusing that early on them and being recognized perhaps by the scientists. That is probably the genies out of the bottle. It is too late to do that. The second one is, if somebody is young doesn’t have any underlying healthcare, serious medical conditions, Dr. Anton Titov, MD. You know. The personal goals of that person could be to get essentially infected and rolling the dice considering the statistics and isolating himself or herself and does becoming immune and becoming the barrier, as you said, to fight fire with fire. Medical second opinion is important. Somebody could be thinking of that as a personal strategy. Again, understanding that the main goal of the public health strategist pursued at the moment is to prevent the spread to more vulnerable groups of patients. What do you think of those two kinds of ideas? Dr. Anton Titov, MD. Again, realizing that they are provocative? Yeah, I understand that the argument. That is quite similar to the UK plan from maybe two weeks ago. This has now changed. The reason that the UK plan was changed. Originally. The idea was to protect the vulnerable patients. But at the same time, slow down, spread. But don’t stop spread in the rest of the population. What changed the UK. The science that was updated, then led to a change in the UK plan was that doing that there will still be a lot of patients that need to go into hospital, a lot of patients that need to go into intensive care even among younger adults. Medical second opinion is important. You mentioned the idea of rolling the dice, that the dice are not so let me start again. So, you said the idea of rolling the dice. Actually, for younger adults, there is still a risk of getting a severe infection. Dr. Benjamin Cowling. We have seen deaths in younger adults in China and also in other parts of the world. Medical second opinion is important. It is it is something that no government wants to ask is for patients to be infected when there is a real risk of very serious infection, even in younger adults, even in children. Medical second opinion is important. That was why the UK plan has now changed. Previously. The UK plan did involve focusing protection on older adults and the vulnerable population. But then spreading out infections over the younger adults and children, so that herd immunity might build-up. Dr. Benjamin Cowling. Then everything would be over by September, life can go back to normal. But the reason it is changed now is that that would also involve a lot of patients getting into hospital. A lot of patients getting into into into intensive care when there is not enough space. Dr. Benjamin Cowling. Then potentially quite a number of deaths in younger adults. This no government wants to have a plan that involves a lot of younger adults dying from Corona virus infection.