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Professor Evans, is there a question that I didn’t ask but should have asked? Is there anything in your interests or your experience that you’d like to share with our viewers and not necessarily on medicine? Well, I think the first thing is regarding medicine, having come from a background of physics, I find that too many medical researchers want to prove something. And I would occasionally, as a statistical consultant, have somebody come into my office and say, I want to find out if this treatment works. And somebody else who comes in who says, I want to prove this treatment works. And my prejudice was that I wanted to work with the person who wanted to find out and not with the person who wanted to prove, and there is too much being wedded to your own idea. Ideas in medicine are not being critical enough. I think the second thing I would want to say I am a great fan of someone called Henry cloud, who is a clinical psychologist who wrote on integrity. He wrote a great book on integrity. And integrity has the same root meaning as an integer in mathematics being whole. And I think that we need to ensure that we have integrity in all we do. We have had problems in the UK, with people who are in considerable positions of influence, who have thought that the rules do not apply to them in regard to social distancing or not traveling, and they are people who know Well, that those are things that they should have done. And we need to be aware that each one of us can fail to have integrity. But actually, that should be our target. We should behold people we should have consistency between what we do in our science and what we do in our behaviors. The other thing I would finally say is that it seems to me that this pandemic has been an amplifier. It has amplified good, and it has amplified bad in my view, it has amplified generosity, and it has amplified greed. We have seen in the UK an old soldier who determined to walk us a certain number of times around his garden to raise money for the National Health Service prior to his hundredth birthday, and he hoped very much he’d raise 1000 pounds. He has raised many millions. And he has become a national figure such that yesterday it was announced he was being given a knighthood. His goodness inspired so many people. We also see the people who are going into hospitals and stealing the personal protective equipment of the health service staff. We see them breaking into the stores of PP equipment. We see the people who are spitting at health care workers saying I’ve got COVID-19 and spitting the ambulance. It seems to me that this pandemic has amplified those things, many of us who are shut up, find that our attitudes and our behaviors are amplified in this. And we need to recognize it, none of us is immune, none of us is perfectly good. And we need to see where we are amplifying our reactions to other people, or our behaviors in ways that are not good. And look to amplify our actions and our generosity in ways that are good. Professor Evans, thank you very much. I think that’s very important. And it certainly shows that we’re all human beings and let’s hope that we’ll be able to be good human beings, responsible human beings and have, as you said, integrity, from integer in our daily lives, well beyond this pandemic. Thank you very much for this most interesting conversation. I hope we’ll be able To get back to you as their COVID-19 situation develops, and results of major clinical trials will become known and analyzed. So to get more of your wisdom and commentary, thank you very much for this most useful conversation, Professor Evans. It’s been a pleasure, and I hope you keep well. And I hope that we will be in touch again at one stage. Thank you.